Vanilla Wow Easy Way to Buff Self With Pally Buffs

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    Aethias is offline

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    Pally buffs

    although this isn't a thread about how i miss class variaty and pallys bringing unique buffs to a group, i am wondering which is the better buff for pally dps, kings or might?
    I get kings generally helps every class more, but which is a bigger ap gain, what kings gives from str, or what you get from might. Im in slightly over 346 gear seeing as ret is my off off spec if that changes anything

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    palladish is offline

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    You know that you can just press C and look at your Attack power in no more than 2 clicks, just click each buff

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    Personal dps? Might. In a raid, use kings if you're the only paladin and there are no druids or leatherworkers around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corylyn View Post

    Personal dps? Might. In a raid, use kings if you're the only paladin and there are no druids or leatherworkers around.

    Hunters and Shamans can provide the 2 individual parts to Might, so in those cases, using Kings is better, too.

    But yes, Might is a better personal dps gain. Kings is better for the majority as it provides intellect for healers, Stam and avoidance for tanks, and str/agility/intellect for dps.


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    Kings > Might unless there is another paladin or a druid present.

    Or Both a Hunter and Shaman.

    Always do kings unless there is someone to override it.


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    Aethias is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by palladish View Post

    You know that you can just press C and look at your Attack power in no more than 2 clicks, just click each buff

    I realize that but seeing as i hardly play ret i figured it wouldn't be too much to ask for a little help

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    Téuntjûh is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playintrafic View Post

    Kings > Might unless there is another paladin or a druid present.

    Or Both a Hunter and Shaman.

    Always do kings unless there is someone to override it.

    Please don't post false information.
    There are severtal posts on maintankadin with the theocrafting and numbers about this.
    If you are one your own, BoM is better then BoK. For maximizing your dps output.

    If you are in group, BoK is better most of the time. (Casters need Int and other classes can use the extra agi too)


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    Litte offtopic here. Yesterday i saw buff called Blessing of Fargoten Kings, what is that???

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    Dacopa is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimator View Post

    Litte offtopic here. Yesterday i saw buff called Blessing of Fargoten Kings, what is that???

    Is a buff you can give your party from leatherworking drums. It reseembles paladin kings, but only gives 4% or something.

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    Kings is easily the better choice.
    the AP boost from kings and might should be the same but with the added benefit of extra crit, health and mana from kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldrig View Post

    Kings is easily the better choice.
    the AP boost from kings and might should be the same but with the added benefit of extra crit, health and mana from kings.

    The ap boost from bok almost same as the one from bom?
    Wtf are you smoking?
    Bom's ap boost is kinda double the one from bok.
    With my gear I get 488ap from bok while bom gives me 1020ap.
    And the extra crit is laughable,its around a 0,03% boost on it.

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    10% ap from Might and 5% str from BoK right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldrig View Post

    10% ap from Might and 5% str from BoK right?

    Yeah and your point is?

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    start with 10 000 ap. add might, 11 000 AP
    start with 10 000 ap. add kings, 11 000 AP + crit + health + mana
    Last edited by mmoc7a70293fbc; 2011-05-26 at 10:39 AM. Reason: missed a 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldrig View Post

    start with 10 000 ap. add might, 11 000 AP
    start with 10 000 ap. add kings, 11 000 AP + crit + health + mana

    start with 10199ap add might 11219
    start with 10119ap add bok 10687
    And again the crit gained is trash compared to the extra ap from bom.
    Last edited by marinos; 2011-05-26 at 11:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldrig View Post

    start with 10 000 ap. add might, 11 000 AP
    start with 10 000 ap. add kings, 11 000 AP + crit + health + mana

    Or not seeing as BoK gives additional STRENGTH for your dps and not attack power. So the increase in numbers comes from strength and not from AP.
    The only way BoK can beat BoM when you have 10,000 AP is for 5% strength be an increase of 500.
    For kings to give you 500str/1,000AP you must have 10,000 strength. If you have 10,000 strength, however you're AP will not be anywhere near 10,000 it will be through the fucking roof making BoM HUGELY better for solo dps.

    For solo purposes BoM will be the higher dps increase. Hands down.
    Party based with no other pally/druid(/LW) to BoK/MoTW then BoK is what you should buff. The party increase outweighs the increase for AP users. If there is someone else in the group able to fill that buff then by all means use BoM as extra buffs aren't going to hurt anyone

    TL;DR BoK for party if no one else fills that role. BoM for solo dps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sporky0 View Post

    Or not seeing as BoK gives additional STRENGTH for your dps and not attack power. So the increase in numbers comes from strength and not from AP.
    The only way BoK can beat BoM when you have 10,000 AP is for 5% strength be an increase of 500.
    For kings to give you 500str/1,000AP you must have 10,000 strength. If you have 10,000 strength, however you're AP will not be anywhere near 10,000 it will be through the fucking roof making BoM HUGELY better for solo dps.

    For solo purposes BoM will be the higher dps increase. Hands down.
    Party based with no other pally/druid(/LW) to BoK/MoTW then BoK is what you should buff. The party increase outweighs the increase for AP users. If there is someone else in the group able to fill that buff then by all means use BoM as extra buffs aren't going to hurt anyone

    TL;DR BoK for party if no one else fills that role. BoM for solo dps.

    Nice explaination, I think we can end this thread here now

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    Hunters and Shamans can provide the 2 individual parts to Might, so in those cases, using Kings is better, too.

    Just a small clarification:
    Enhacement Shamans (Unleashed Rage buff) and Marksman Hunters (Trueshot Aura buff), not all of them as one might think by reading this.
    Last edited by shadowkras; 2011-05-26 at 12:47 PM.

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    Almost, it's Trueshot Aura my MM hunters (hunting party is the melee attack speed buff from surv hunters). But yah, BoM might be better solo, in a group, kings is the winner most of the time. Or you can raid with a paly tank a ret and a holy like I do and have fun fighting over buffs XD

    It's not just me, it's ALL rets. Join the ret MS club, get bitches, get money, get nerfed.
    It takes idiots to do cool things. That's why they're cool.


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    Almost, it's Trueshot Aura my MM hunter

    My bad, didnt drink my coffee this morning.

    People take stupidity to a whole new level when they sit in front of a computer.

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